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accommodations at the palazzo las vegas resort. hotel will require a deposit of one night plus taxes per suite to guarantee accommodations. if that doesn't strike a blow against oppressive bureaucracy, i don't know what does. >> thank you very much, kent. "countdown with keith olbermann" starts right now. which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? amaze your friends, confuse your enemies. okay. just confuse everybody. >> today we are announcing the expansion of offshore oil and gas exploration. >> the president attacked by the right for not drilling enough, attacked by the right for drilling at all, attacked by both sides for contradicting the campaign. the maximum yield, 63 billion
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barrels of oil. we use 7 billion barrels of oil per year. the likely return on this, a fraction of that may be as little as two weeks' supply. drill, barack, drill. the republican who is for protecting the consumer from the big banks, senator corker flip-flops, opposed the reform bill. last week he supported. our special guest congressman barney frank. they were subjected to warrantless electronic surveillance. the federal judges ruling against bush administration wiretaps of an islamic charity and wiretapping the obama is defending under state secrets law. the tea party senate candidate in florida suggests i don't love this country and should be traded from it. tonight's quick comment. worsts. that was quick. a right wing radio freak defends the hutaree on grounds of faith and freedom of speech. and sarah palin's interview with
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ll cool jay for fixed news. it was news to him. it was lifted from somewhere else. fox turns tail and runs. and baseball player hits ball, baseball player's hit ball hits baseball player's own mother. all the news and commentary now on tonight's seventh anniversary edition of "countdown." good evening. this is "countdown." good evening from new york. president obama stunning supporters and getting a faint cough from his opponents announcing he is approved limited offshore drilling increases, delaware through central florida and along parts of the outer continental shill. drill b. obama, drill. the administration said it will
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save oil, the proverb about pleasing everybody and ending up pleasing nobody seems appropriate. president obama declaring he has cleared the way for expanded oil drilling along the atlantic coast, the eastern gulf of mexico and parts of the classic yan shoreline. >> given our energy needs, in order to sustain economic growth and produce jobs and keep our businesses competitive, we need to harness traditional sources of fuel as we ramp up production of new sources of renewable homegrown energy. >> a change in policy from when senator obama started running for the white house when he first supported the moratorium preventing oil companies from drilling off florida's coast and august 2008 signalled willingness to okay some drilling. >> this is not a decision i've made lightly. ultimately we need to move beyond the tired debates of the left and right, business leaders
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and environmentalists, those who would claim drilling as a cure all and those who claim it has no place. this issue is too important to allow our progress to languish while we fight the same old battles over and over again. >> the policy is not going to gain much in terms of oil production. the maximum yield, 63 billion barrel. we consume 7 billion barrels a year. with every spoonful of oil they think could be, is there, he did this to get nine years' supply. way less than half of the oil is there and to start there is a five-year window to drill. this yield might equal a month's domestic consumption, maybe two weeks. what might the president be hoping to get in return for this controversial decision? senator graham hinting the president was going to need to make a grand gesture if he wanted support on energy or climate change.
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john kerry saying that offshore drilling could help get 60 votes for climate legislation. which climate legislation exactly? this morning on cnbc, ken salazar backing away from cap-and-trade saying the term cap-and-trade is not in the lexicon anymore. drilling proposal hasn't won the president any republican votes in the house. minority leader boehner saying the plan does not go far enough. opening up areas off the virginia coast is a positive step, but keeping the pacific coast and alaska as well as the most promising resources off the gulf of mexico under lock and key makes no sense. except that makes no sense. president obama opened new areas of drilling in alaska's arctic sea. bristol bay remains protected. speaking of which, the former half governor of alaska saying you guessed it, drill, baby, drill. it was only her first tweet.
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mrs. palin posting an apparent self-tweeting correction. "representative boehner spot on obama goal cram through job killing energy depleting burdensome cap and tack scheme on heels of obama's pro drilling -- the executive director of greenpeace saying is this president obama's clean energy plan or sarah palin drill, baby, drill campaign. we need steps toward clean energy not dirty expensive offshore drilling. lots to talk about with howard fineman. howard, good evening. >> hi, keith. >> republicans obviously think this does not go far enough. progressives feel betrayed. the actual amount of oil could be ridiculously small. hasn't this president traveled this no man's land before, triangulation nation? >> yeah. he has and almost got lost in it.
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they held this very close at the white house. this was a surprise to everybody around town because the administration knew they wanted to try to control the message to avoid the very problem you are talking about. what is of interest to me is here is barack obama prospered with big picture, with big concepts for example on health care. but the equivalent, if this were the health care bill this would be like introducing the health care bill by saying let's start by redecorating all the doctors' offices. this is small ball for what is supposed to be another big picture plan on energy. that is why it is puzzling. >> in terms of energy independence which is at least the public goal of this, is there really any there? from the boehner perspective it would seem as if this does not go anywhere near far enough towards meeting republican objectives let alone producing any large supply of oil. >> no, it doesn't. i think it is largely symbolic. he is saying yes, i believe in
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extrax. i don't want you to think i'm against extraction. it will be years before this is developed, he is trying to get republican votes in the senate. lindsey graham said i need stuff for my guys to participate in a bill in the senate. a bill had passed the house, nothing has happened in the senate. they're taking a lead from lindsey graham here. it may be a fool's errand in terms of getting republicans' support. >> the terms about what the president might be hoping to leverage here and what secretary salazar said about cap-and-trade is not in the lexicon. did he mean the phrase or the actual legislation that would be cap-and-trade or have the same effect as cap-and-trade? >> the real big deal here, keith, is still the question of carbon pollution. co2 pollution comes from coal fired plants, industries, cars, et cetera. if there is going to be a serious effort to make us more efficient in terms of energy,
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more independent but also greener, you are going to have to do something about the social cost of carbon-based pollution. you can call it whatever you want, you can have whatever mechanism you want, that is the key thing. the problem for president. this thing about drilling with offshore doesn't deal with at all. >> do you suppose, i know we are at guesswork stage, but is the calculation, the yelling from both sides about health care reform, the president got his victory and got some health care reform that perhaps all of this, really, this is the first time the overwhelming response out of washington has been huh, rather than we hate this. we are going to protest this. an oil party with people dressed up as gasoline pumps. will all be forgotten if he gets any kind of climate legislation into law? >> well, it is a big if. it is just as big an if as health care.
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it only passed by three votes in the end. the big sticking point is coal as i look at it. maybe because i began in kentucky. we get half of our electricity from coal. coal is a huge pollution problem in states where the democrats need support where obama needs support. you've got democratic senators, bobby bird in west virginia, specter in west virginia and indiana who will vote no on f there is a tax on carbon-based pollution. that is the problem obama has to deal with to get a bill. >> howard fineman, great thanks. for more on the reaction, let's turn to eric pica president of friends of the earth. thank you for your time tonight, sir. >> thank you, keith. >> the obama move here does a lot to a long standing moratorium on oil and gas drilling off of much of the east coast. your reaction to hearing the news today was what? >> look, friends of the earth
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perspective we are seriously disappointed with the president. he is turning his back on 25 years of sound energy policy for blowing a kiss to the republicans and senate graham on this drilling fiasco. >> if there is the political calculation more than the, you know, seven or eight billion barrels of oil that might come out of it, or even if that number were 70 billion, if it is more about getting enough republican support to pass significant legislation in terms of climate change, in terms of energy and emission standards, is it in any way to your mind worth the tradeoff? >> we have to see a bill first. the president is essentially unilaterally disarming hem him. we saw two or three weeks ago he pledged to do new nuclear power in georgia, oil and gas development pledge he is making. he is talking significantly about coal.
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he has the trifecta of the republican energy plan and we don't see what we are getting out of it. we are empowering dirty energy sources and not getting strong commitments on renewable energy, on solar. we need to make a significant step forward in these technologies to solve global warming and reduce energy dependency. he is just not stepping up right now. >> under those circumstances of not stepping up and presenting a bill that would encourage you there is some light at the end of this tunnel he decided to go into, what is friends of the earth planning to do to fight this proposal? >> already a letter is sent to majority leader reid. ten senators said if there is additional drilling in this bill we would likely oppose this bill. we are sending letters to our members saying sipe a petition, tell senator -- or president obama that this is unacceptable
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energy policy that he is putting forth. thirdly, it is just talking to you and i'm glad you are having this on the show, talking to other media outlets and blowing the whistle on this, how much of a fraud this proposal is. >> how about the new increased mileage standards that the administration claimed is going to save 1.8 billion in terms of barrels of oil, 90 days worth of domestic consumption. does that mitigate against what you see as a bad day? >> that is a really good proposal he made and we are highly supportive. why do we have to have these two linked. this is a proposal to make cars more efficient and cleaner. something we should be doing regardless of oil and gas drilling or nuclear power. we support it questioning why he has pack jed this together. this is a very green victory when we start implementing these fuel economy standards. >> erich pica, thank you for
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your time. you know the likelihood of republican support for anything is harder to find than oil. a gop senator reneges on banking reform that would protect you instead of the banks. barney frank joins us. a plagiarism scandal at fox news with sarah palin and ll cool jay now involves sarah palin and toby keith. it's calcium citrate, so it can be absorbed with or without food. also available in small, easy-to-swallow petites. citracal. they've served for decades as a golden, tasty sidekick to the all-american meal. french fries, and our national passion for them, are legendary. classic. iconic. but times change. and people want better foods. so cargill helped a restaurant chain create a zero-trans fat cooking oil for their french fries. using select canola plants and inovative processing techniques
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democrats need one republican senator to support banking reform that would have protected you instead of the banks. last week they had him, today he's flip-flopped. congressman barney frank on that. a federal court judge rules the bush administration's illegal domestic wiretapping was illegal domestic wiretapping. a candidate for the u.s. senate implies i don't love this country and i should be traded to another country. and the foulest foul ball in 50 years, the minnesota twins outfielder who lined one off his own mom.
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done. the one republican senator most likely to help democrats pass new law to reform the way our banks work and do not work now says he absolutely cannot support the bill in question. our fourth story tonight, the bill's intent is to prevent another devastating financial meltdown. but tennessee senator bob corker says he cannot support it because it gives consumers too much protection. the house bill shaped by democrats including our next guest, financial services chairman barney frank, establishes exactly what president obama called for. an independent agency to protect consumers against predatory banking practices.
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the senate bill authored single handedly by banking chairman chris dodd of the senate locates the consumer protection agency inside the federal reserve which is primarily responsible not for consumers but for protecting the system. senator corker in today's "wall street journal" says the agency dodd proposes still has too much power to protect consumers. in a speech today corker explained his opposition. he objects to dodd's proposal that banks would have to hold on to, not sell to another institution, at least 5% of any loans they make, which would give them at least some incentive to ensure that the loans were repayable because they would lose money when they were not repayable. even though dodd's proposed consumer protection agency would be part of the federal reserve, corker also wants banking regulators those charged with protecting the banks from themselves to have a veto power
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over any consumer protection agency. quote, i don't want an overzealous consumer protection agency. we need balance. right now in the bill there's too much independence and too little coordination between the regulators and the consumer protection side. he said this out loud. and while dodd's talks with richard shelby broke down, corker is still optimistic about negotiating changes to the bill before it is taken up by the full senate potentially as early as this month or next. joining us as promised, chairman of the house financial services committee, congressman barney frank. thank you for your time, sir. >> glad to, keith. it is a very important issue. obviously. >> "the wall street journal" writes democrats need support from one republican to pass the measure in the senate. are republicans already backing off on repealing health care, seemingly getting away from that crazy idea, why not let them filibuster on behalf of the banks, if that's what they want to do? >> i agree with you. this is a bring it on moment. senator dodd, let me say, senator dodd is doing an excellent job, and the bill he wrote originally was a very good bill.
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he has gone every possible step to accommodate them. and what happened with this, senator corker was trying to negotiate with senator dodd. he was overruled by the republican leadership. let's be very clear. senator mcconnell and shelby told corker no. they have a fantasy they will get 41 republicans to stand up and say there should be no reform. understand, keith, when the house voted on this bill last december, and the bill that came out of the house is a good bill. it's not everything i wanted, i would have liked to have more strength but we did a pretty good job. our problem was that health care was dominating the news, so we were kind of left alone with the lobbyists. we still did a pretty good job. but what -- when we wrote on that bill in december, every single republican, i'm not exaggerating, as casey stengel used to say, you can look it up. every single republican in the u.s. house of representatives
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voted to kill every single form of financial reform. they didn't say make it better, they didn't say better balance, they said nothing. nada. kill it all. now, shelby and the house minority leader, john boehner, went before the american bankers a couple weeks ago and promised them that they would use parliamentary tactics to kill the bill. that's when boehner outrageously said to these bankers, don't let these punk staffers push you around. the very hard working people who work for us. so i agree with you completely. let's call their bluff. i don't think the american people want to see a consumer agency that has to check with the bank supporters before it does anything. and the other issue, securitization. 30 years ago when you borrowed money, you borrowed money from the person who expected you to pay him back and he or she was pretty careful about lending it. then they came up with this scheme whereby i lend somebody money, i lend 1,000 people money, and i sell the right to be repaid by other -- to other people. that gives me no real incentive to have the repayment. so we're asking for a fairly small, 5% to 10% hold. by the way, if i buy insurance
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from a company and that company gets worried and wants to get reinsurance, they cannot reinsure the whole risk. they have to have what we call risk retention. so what you have is the republicans apparently deciding as a party that everything worked wonderfully and there should be no reform whatsoever. last point, i have a contest going on. i want someone to tell me an example in american history in the financial area where we overregulated on behalf of consumers. i can't think of one, unfortunately. >> well, this begs that point, and you included it in that great summation of what's going on here. but i'd like to emphasize this one idea here about where that consumer protection agency is. what happens if there's an owe version created not the way you outlined it? >> first of all sh that's not going to happen until we have a vote in the senate. and i am committed -- my republican colleagues go off and on like a light switch. they wanted the health care bill negotiated in public. i wasn't in charge of the health
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care bill but i have a lot to say about the financial bill. i'm giving them their wish. we will have a conference. if a bill comes out where republicans and over chris dodd's objection, let me talk about chris dodd, he's done the best job i think he can do. if you get 41 republicans filibustering, then we're going to sit in public and have a nice conference and you can all cover us, and let the republican members of that conference from the senate vote to dill this independent agency. because we're not going to provide cover for them. i'm not in the business of helping make up republicans so they can pretend to be what they're not. >> that quote, i mean, senator corker would be described in new england as a corker, even if his name wasn't that, based on this quote. he said this aloud. how do you get re-elected to anything higher than dog catcher defending the banks against the people? >> i think they made a mistake. here's the deal. they got a little overconfident. last year when we were doing this fight -- our bill is a little strong. i wish it was tougher on derivatives, although we make
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great strides there, everybody was talking about health care. so they got away with opposing it. here's their argument now. it's big government, you can't trust. there's an interesting thing going on here with the republicans. first they ran the government for six years, the president, the house and the senate. they messed things up. in the financial area they didn't regulate, they allowed all these terrible things to happen. now that we're trying to fix it they say you can't trust the government. i couldn't trust the government they ran, but now they can make it better. i don't think it's going to work. let me say this. i don't think all 41 republicans are going to stand up and try to kill independent financial reform. >> one would think not but we've seen worse before. congressman barney frank, chairman of the house financial services committee, always a pleasure. thank you for your time. >> thank you, keith. james risen of "the new york times" on a crucial ruling against the bush administration domestic spying program and against the obama justice department which tried to defend it, coming up here. hi, ellen! we're going on a field trip to china! wow. [ chuckles ]
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a federal judge with a huge ruling today against bush administration warrantless wiretaps. first on august 17th, 1957, richie ashburn who got to the baseball hall of fame by his ability to keep fouling off pitches he didn't like until he got one he did like, fouled one off. it struck of all people alice roth, the wife of the sports editor of the philadelphia bulletin newspaper. they had to carry mrs. roth and her broken nose off on a stretcher. while they were so doing, ashburn, still at the plate and fouling pitches off, hit mrs.
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roth with another foul ball. and then on june 17th, 2000, chuck knoblauch picked up a ground ball, hitting a fan, breaking her eyeglasses. that fan was my late mother. in tampa this afternoon in an exhibition game against the yankees. minnesota twins center fielder dennard span kind of did a half ashburn, after knoblauch. let's play "odd ball." mr. span of the twins shoots a foul ball into the stands and hits a fan wearing a denard span uniform. i know. what are the odds? well, it gets worse. the woman wearing the denard span uniform is his mom. wanda wilson. she was okay. that's why span ran into the stands. he had to take himself out of the game, he was disturbed enough, although she was fine. even this is not as bad as it gets.
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hall of fame pitcher bol feller says when he was only 20 years old he threw a pitch in comiskey park in chicago. in 1939. it was fouled off and it hit his mother in the stands, and that was on mother's day. and we showed you this last night. it has apparently been shown everywhere. it happened. it's funny, but it deserves, if not an apology than an explanation. this was melanie lawson, anchor in houston, slipping out of her chair as she reached over towards the weather man. i don't know ms. lawson but a good friend does and he advises me that part of what we saw and laughed at is something she would never make a big deal of. melanie lawson has multiple sclerosis, has used a cane for many years and she laughed at herself when that happened. my apologies to her and to you for not having known that first. my friend writes she is an inspiration for me and many others here in the houston area and now she's an inspiration for me too. an actual candidate for the republican nomination for the senate of this nation suggests that there are three americans who disagree with him politically, who do not love
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tonight, the united states government, following guidelines set by the bush administration's terrorist surveillance program, has been found guilty of illegally eavesdropping on two american lawyers and an islamic charity. there was a ruling from a federal court in san francisco that could be the most significant yet on unraveling the invasions of privacy institutionalized by president bush. it was filed in 2008, two american lawyers. the plaintiffs claim phone conversations in 2004 were illegally wire tapped by the national security agency, the nsa. after the islamic charity was deemed a terrorism supporter by the treasury department. they argued the government violated the surveillance act, or fisa, because they did not first obtain a warrant. the justice department under both presidents bush and obama
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argued a warrant to eavesdrop was not necessary arguing the state secrets trumped the fisa law. today judge walker delivered his verdict in favor of the foundation and the two american attorneys. fisa takes precedence over the states secrets privilege in the case and freely employee the states secret privilege to evade fisa enacted to rein in and create a judicial check. the justice department is reviewing the decision. joining me, james risen, with "the new york times." pulitzer prize winner for his investigative reporting on the bush administration's domestic spying program. thank you for your time tonight, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> you have followed this issue so closely and on such extraordinary reporting on it
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con textualize it for us. >> i think the most important thing is by declaring the eavesdropping an illegal act, that in other words, it was the bush administration had no right to evade fisa, it raises serious questions about the whole underpinnings for the bush war on terror. you could argue that virtually all the programs that the bush administration used, rendition, torture, wiretapping, you know, setting up secret prisons, all were in one form or another, an invasion of congressional power. if by saying the bush administration had no right to avoid congressional mandates and congressional legislation, that raises real questions about whether everything that the bush administration did on counterterrorism was illegal. >> fracture practically does that mean anything at this point? >> this was the last major lawsuit pending on the nsa program, because all the cases against the tell communications
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companies had been thrown out by the telecom immunity. in 2008 in the legislation to update fisa that president obama voted for when he was in the senate. but this one was targeted against the nsa, against the government, rather than the telecommunications companies. by declaring this illegal, it raises questions about whether individual government officials in the future could be held liable for having acted in a criminal way. >> is there any reason to suppose ultimately this case will turn out any differently than the last time there was an attempt made to sue the nsa by the aclu? >> well that case in detroit, as you may remember, the whole program was declared unconstitutional and an appeals court ruled that it was -- that the people who brought that case lacked standing. but no one ever challenged the underlying ruling by the judge that it was unconstitutional. it's unclear that anybody can argue, in this case either, that
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by declaring it criminal -- that the program was a crime, that you could not make a further -- you know, demand a further criminal investigation of what the bush administration did. and it's unclear whether the obama administration really wants to fight that battle. they've argued this more narrowly on the state secrets privilege, and they've never tried to defend the bush administration on the actual nsa program. >> they also did something interesting here, which also gives context to this, it may be a little bit different. the holder justice department broke with the alberto gonzales justice department and gave the judge this classified description of why the case should be dismissed, and the judge still ruled in favor of the plaintiff. does that tell us just how flawed, at least for historical purposes, does it tell us how flawed the bush domestic spying program really was? >> it raises real questions because there was a document the al haramain people had been
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given by mistake that revealed they had actually been wiretapped under this program. that was not -- they were not allowed to use that. but the obama administration, the way they broke with the bush administration on this was by saying we are going to abide by the court's ruling. the bush people were never going to -- they were essentially planning to ignore whatever the court said in this case, if they were still in office. the obama people are now going to abide by it, the question is they may not appeal this case, this ruling, which would leave on the books the idea that the nsa program was illegal. >> does it also, the way they defended this, the way holder defended this, using state secrets, does that stay on the books too? will this be the last time they use state secrets? >> probably not. i'm sure they have defended that more vigorously than they have the nsa program itself. but this, it raises real interesting questions about state secrets too. the limits of state secrets and how far they can push that in trying to shut down criminal
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cases against the government. >> james risen of "the new york times." great thanks for putting this in context for us, and again, great thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. the fake implication sarah palin and fox she had done an interview with ll cool j for her show, turns out she did not interview toby keith, even though they alleged that, too. the hutaree gets their day in court tomorrow, guess what they're expecting the court to do for them in court. ah, irony. and when rachel joins you, the state attorney general who will not sue to stop health care reform and the republicans wo are trying to impeach him. the night the brains went out in georgia. i never intended to be a businessman. we made the world's best climbing equipment out of here.
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mark rubio has yet to be mistaken for one of the bright young lights of american politics. he gave a speech today in west palm beach we he endorsed offshore drilling, condemned amnesty for immigrants and according to the "palm beech post" closed with a thought he said originated on the glenn beck show. no, he did not start weeping, not even speaking in tongues. he said, regarding immigration, quote, there are millions of people in america that hate our country, so why can't we just do a trade? we'll send you sean penn, jeanine garofalo and you can send us people that actually love this country and want to help us build it. you have long behaved like a teenager who has borrowed his father's suit. i think you don't understand this country, i think you imperil this country and your stupidity is an indictment to this country. i'm sure you feel exactly the same way about me. but what i would never claim about you is that you do not love this country. i would never even claim that in your own way you have not believed you have tried to build it. you have the right to criticize anything you want about me, or
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even beck isn't dumb enough to claim domestic terrorism is just faith and free speech. our runners up, the good old hutaree themselves, led by that misunderstood faithful free speech advocate who incidentally wanted to kill cops and topple the government. david brian stone, also known as joe stonewall and captain hutaree. whatever else they are, mr. stone and fellow alleged terrorists are excellent at after being charged with sedition against the government they viewed as some kind of antichrist they have requested the services of free government attorneys. but our winner and only because it's the anniversary of the show, bill-o the clown. first a anniversary note. he gave an interview to marvin kitman who wrote the biography o'reilly tried to suppress "the man who won't shut up." which he said "countdown" didn't matter, it would be canceled and i would be fired before kitman's book came out. his book came out january 3rd, 2007. another bold and fresh
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prediction. but something new from bill-o. something simple, gently underscoring how nuts he really is. you turn on msnbc and you see these people attacking personally. they're throwing all kinds of stuff around. people go, it's unpleasant. i'm not going to watch it. and they don't. this is the highest rated cable news show, not on fox, blah, blah, blah. bill's implication is he doesn't attack people personally, except he has said this. msnbc made the key mistake of hiring bad people. it's as simple as that. they've got a bunch of guttersnipes on their network. so i attack personally, he doesn't and attacks us as bad people and guttersnipes. now everybody occasionally falls into self-contradictory mutually exclusive bad claims. embarrassing claims like that. but there's usually space between the points of contradiction. a year, a month. how long before o'reilly contradicted himself? in the transcript it looks like about 42 seconds.
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sarah palin's fox news show "real american stories" debuts tomorrow, april first. sharing real stories of ll cool j and toby keith, which comes as a big surprise to ll cool j and toby keith. our number one story, turns out the whole thing is an april fool's joke, although unintentional. as a fox news press detail, the show is, or at least was, to tell real life tales of overcoming adversity and would include special guests, like country singer toby keith, rapper and actor ll cool j and
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the president of general electric, jack welch. you can never get him for an interview. mr. cool j and welch will both speak about their success in this country in a segment entitled, "in their own words," prompting mary ham to say the more ll cool j spends in a fox news studio the closer i get to meeting him and for that i owe sarah palin many thanks. i don't think so. save the thank you note for another time, ll cool j will not spend time in a fox news studio, he already did. 18 months ago. mr. cool j tweeting -- fox lifted an old interview i gave in 2008 to someone else and are misrepresenting to the public in order to promote sarah palin's show. wow. fox news announcing it would pull the interview from the show and being real nice about it, "real american stories" features uplifting tales about overcoming adversities and we believed mr. smith's interview fit that criteria. however as it appears that mr.
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smith does not want to be associated with a program that is inspirational, we are cutting the interview from the show. toby keith explained the song, courtesy of the red, white and blue, you know, with the lyrics, we'll put a boot up your ass, it's the american way. he said fox has never contacted me, not now, not when they were putting this together, not at all. i have no idea what they're using. now it turns out was for an interview they did a year ago with him. joining me msnbc political analyst, author of "renegade, the making of a president" richard wolf. >> good evening, keith. >> i can't recall the last time sarah palin surprised me. but how could anybody screw up something so obvious as the marriage between sarah palin and fox news? >> you know, keith, your question is refreshingly quaint. it's almost like you believe the words real american stories has something to do with reality.
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that's like saying fair and balanced has something to do with fairness and balance. the idea here is if you need explanation of stories of overcoming adversity, of a triumph of inspiration, it's like being a one-time flute player and part-time tv sportscaster in anchorage and going on to serve half a term as governor and still hosting your oun own tv show and leading a political movement. this show is a triumph over adversity and if needs be, reality. it is itself inspiration. >> a triumph over reality, i agree with you on that point. they show video of her swimming the english channel, that's sarah palin. this budding toby keith thing, is that the real problem here? i mean, wouldn't the supporters of either of them be mystified that these two people would have a rift? >> you would think so. although it's interesting seeing the "new york times," it is as some might call it, the lame stream media, "the new york times" has quoted his publicist
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as saying they never got an e-mail from fox news, so it's a surprise even to the publicist, let alone the interviewee. toby keith is an interesting guy, he is on the conservative side of things. he's called himself a conservative democrat. says he's a friend of james jones, the national security adviser, also a friend of bill richardson. so this guy is all over the place. >> yes, well, apparently he's not being interviewed by sarah palin. they've admitted she didn't do any of these interviews. she is just the front person for the show. fox used the dismissive we wish him luck in the press release. didn't we watch a fascinating dynamic in play? first fox found him inspirational and he was the headliner for this -- i almost said unraveling for the show, but it's already unraveled. then he called them on the corner cutting and he is